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Typical questions we have been getting

Can Batsand use the surplus of my solar panel?

Yes. Batsand provides sensors that connect to your home power supply. When those detect electricity being diverted to the public grid it will trigger the heating equipment to start working and use the surplus to heat the battery.

Do I need an internet connection?

No. You will need a router, but all sensors and triggers can work without an internet connection.

Can I use Batsand without a neutral supply?

No. Some of the sensors and the heating components will require a neutral power supply.

Can I use black sand in the sand tank?

No. Batsand can effectively be used with a variety of grain sizes but it requires it to be inorganic sand.

What insulation should I use for the sand pool?

All types of insulation needed can be bought in any DIY shop. You can use stone wool, mineral wool, polystyrene or polyurethane insulation.

Can I use Batsand without solar panels?

Yes. If your region has variable electricity pricing and the price is low in the summer, you can program Batsand to automatically turn on when the price reaches the desired price. Without variable electricity pricing, your only solution is to pair Batsand with solar panels.

How many kW of solar panels do I need?

You can see the recommendation table by batsand here. But as an alternative, you can ask any neighbor with solar panels how much kW they  use from their panels  and how much is diverted to the grid (a house usually only uses 50% of the available power). As a rule of thumb, you should consider 6kW for home use and 14kW to supply batsand. Having a total of 20kw system.

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Is it possible to use your system in conjunction with a water based thermal store, so topping up the heat in the ‘water battery’ as that is depleted?

We get a lot of winter sun in Johannesburg, but don’t have a Feed In Tariff so can’t sell excess power to the grid.

A sand battery could capture all the excess power during summer, whilst the water battery would be a more efficient method (thus fewer panels required) to capture the energy for use that same day, during winter.

Would this be viable?

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Hello,

Currently we dont support water tanks.

For your specific case I would recommend a smaller unit. When we will start deploying our system there will also be the possibility to get one.


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Markus Lueken
Markus Lueken
4 days ago

I am having a NIBE1255, ground/rock heating. How can that be connected to your sustem?

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Hi Markus,

Yes, its possible to get a smaller unit and use it for the to heat up the water return of the heat pump.

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Guest
May 11

How much energy – how many kW are need to heat up a sand tank of 50 cubic meters, from say 20 up to 500°C?

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Guest
5 days ago
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My lay person computation: heat capacity sand = 830 J/kgK density sand = 1500 kg/m3 = 1500 10^3 g/m3 1MJ = 0.2778 kWh (not kW). so to heat up 1m3 sand with 1 degree C (= 1 K): 830 x 1500 x 0.2778 / 10^6 = 0.345 kWh that means 50 m3 and 480 K = 0.345 x 50 x 480 = 8,280 kWh

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Guest
May 11

I assume system cannot heat up the sand, during winter daylight, using electricity, while simultaneously use the heat exchanger for house heating, right? That means it could only use the energy stored during summer, and once the house heating will be started in winter, there will be no more sand battery charging, right? Or my assumption is wrong, and system can simultaneously pump heat into sand from say solar panels or grid, AND simultaneously use the sand pit heat for house heating?? If my assumption is right and heat cannot be added to sand pit during winter house heating, time, then how long the energy in the sand will last? As per your table, a sand tank of 50m3 size (8900KWH), it is estimated for heating up the 250 – 300 m2 house for how long??

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The system supports simultaneous charging via solar panels or grid power, even while discharging to provide heat for your home. It can harness excess solar energy at any point throughout the year. For those with dynamic electricity pricing, the system can be programmed to charge during the more cost-effective hours. While it currently lacks the capability to switch from grid to photovoltaic (PV) power automatically, it is set up for PV by default. Manual programming is required to initiate charging from the grid at specified times.

You can anticipate approximately 9% heat loss monthly. We will publish the officially certified figure once available, which may potentially be lower.

The heating requirements of a home are contingent upon its thermal efficiency. An effectively insulated 300m2 home should maintain comfortable temperatures throughout the year using 9MWH. If not the case you should consider bigger system.

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Guest
Apr 24

Can sandbat unit be kept outdoor?

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Certainly, the device is capable of functioning in such conditions. However, the chilly winter breezes may accelerate its power depletion. To counteract this, one could opt for more substantial and expansive insulation, though this would entail higher costs. Ultimately, for optimal performance, subterranean installation is recommended as the most effective strategy.

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Guest
Apr 23

Could this be used in conjunction with another machine to power wall outlets and lights in my home?

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Organic Rankine Cycle (ORC) and Stirling engines are technologies that convert heat into electricity. However, they are currently hindered by either high costs or low efficiency levels.

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Guest
Apr 03

Does the 14kW heating system operate only at 14kW or can it operate at a lower power when solar generation is not optimal? Is it 3 phase or 1 phase?

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The device is designed to operate in 2Kw increments. Further details will be provided in due course. Specific information is currently restricted until our patents have been officially filed.

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Guest
Apr 03

Any more details available on construction of the sand tank? You mention blueprints?

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We are currently in the midst of drafting our patents. The blueprints will be made available only after these patents have been finalized and submitted.

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Guest
Apr 01

Can I use a DC powered heating device, thereby avoiding the need to oversize the inverter on my solar system?

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That is something that we intend to do in the future. But for now our electronics are hindered by AC power only.

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